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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitsyncmaster View Post
    That is good thought of why this may happen. Does the tank sit at an angle?
    No, the tank doesn't sit at an angle in the chassis I believe , but the combination of the baffle design/size, and location towards the back of the tank means it can always keep a minimum amount till its empty and stops fuel from sloshing around and escaping the reach of the pump suction
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    Quote Originally Posted by cis6409 View Post
    No, the tank doesn't sit at an angle in the chassis I believe , but the combination of the baffle design/size, and location towards the back of the tank means it can always keep a minimum amount till its empty and stops fuel from sloshing around and escaping the reach of the pump suction
    Yes, that said, my car had to be < 1/8 of a tank to be shipped (on an actual ship), and the shipper had trouble starting the car when it was on an angle to be removed from the later truck. That's an early car too, so I don't know if there were design changes later on. I also live in a
    very hilly area, and the reading is really iffy if you spend time stopped on a hill. To that end, I have the DM sender; which helps a great deal, unless you happen to stall as well (it's wired to the radio power supply).

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    It would be best if the tank was higher in the front. You would want extra gas climbing a hill. Going down hill would not make much draw and even if it stalled you can pull over since your still moving.
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    Newer cars have the pump sit in a low cavity in the tank to offset fuel starvation on hills, curves, etc. The old design used a return line directly in a crude "above ground" capsule. When you add the new design pump you eliminate the low fuel safeguards and can easily starve the pump given the right circumstances.

    It also would not surprise me that some gauges may register differently with different types of pump sending units. I just live with it and consider 1/4 tank time to look for a fuel stop.
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    More info from yesterday:
    With the stock gauge reading 1/4 the fuel tank took 10.58 gallons. [DPI pump kit]
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    We tell owners, especially those with EFI, that 1/4 should be considered the lowest level the tank should see. With fuel slosh and integrated pumps not having an external baffle further back in the tank, this can be a problem. Two gallons in the base of the tank is a very small amount.
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    Here are my notes when I tested my new pump sender. Note if you top the tank up to the filler you get 14.75 gal. I have to run my empty test again since I had that problem starting the engine at 1/8 tank.

    I started with an empty tank and put in two quarts of gas. I'm surprised when I ran the pump I got a little flow from the return line with just two quarts of gas in a clean tank.

    Note: pump current at 12.6 volts

    Empty 39.8 ohms
    2 Qt 39.8 ohms 4.8 amps
    4 Qt 39.8 ohms 4.6 amps
    6 Qt 48.0 ohms 5.5 amps
    8 Qt 55.9 ohms 5.5 amps
    10 Qt 63.7 ohms 5.9 amps
    12 Qt 71.3 ohms 6.1 amps
    14 Qt 78.4 ohms ?
    16 Qt 85.8 ohms 6.5 amps
    18 Qt 93.4 ohms 6.6 amps
    20 Qt 101.3 ohms 6.6 amps

    I had filled an empty 5 gal jug with 5.0 gal at the gas station and I had ? Qt. left (my error or pump error)

    5 Gal 101.4 ohms 6.8 amps
    22 Qt 112.8 ohm 6.7 amp
    24 Qt 112.7 ohm 6.8 amp
    26 Qt 120.3 ohm 6.7 amp
    28 Qt 127.8 ohm 6.8 amp
    30 Qt 133.9 ohm
    32 Qt 140.2 ohm
    34 Qt 151.8 ohm
    36 Qt 158.0 ohm
    38 Qt 157.8 ohm
    40 Qt 170.4 ohm

    Had about 4 oz left from my 5.00 gal fill up can

    10 gal 170.5 ohm
    42 Qt 176.7 ohms
    44 Qt 182.4 ohms
    46 Qt 188.3 ohms
    48 Qt 200.5 ohms
    50 Qt 206.7 ohms
    52 Qt 218.2 ohms

    53 Qt 218.3 ohms
    54 Qt 223.9 ohms
    55 Qt 229.0 ohms
    56 Qt 234.3 ohms
    57 Qt 234.3 ohms
    58 Qt 243.6 ohms
    59 Qt 243.8 ohms overflowed 6 inches above top of tank
    Last edited by Bitsyncmaster; 01-26-2023 at 11:54 AM.
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    Just some more thought on this problem. If your running low front suspension and stock back like mine, that makes the problem worse because your tank is tilled forward. Someday I do plan to lower my rear suspension a little.
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