Talk/Today Anchor Man Style Street Fight!!

[thirdmanj]

Who's with me!??

[Kane]

I briefly went over there last night and saw that they have a like 8 page thread about how horrible we are over here. They call us immature but then proceed to expend huge amounts of energy listing out how much we suck.

But what would you expect from a forum where there is an over 10 page circle jerk political thread

[Michael]

Sorry but I'm not very good at....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72zv7Hcwgyw

[valdez]

Will there be tridents?

If not, go ____ yourself, you troll. :chairshot:

[Ryan]

Me clicking on dmctoday

http://i.imgur.com/fihoHkc.gif

[NightFlyer]

So much envy of Today...

But there doesn't have to be - we welcome all at Today :thumbup:

[NightFlyer]

But what would you expect from a forum where there is an over 10 page circle jerk political thread

???

Our 'Obama Sucks' thread is only at 6 pages so far...

[opethmike]

So much envy of Today...

But there doesn't have to be - we welcome all at Today :thumbup:

You certainly didn't welcome me, er, I mean, my friend at Today.

[NightFlyer]

You certainly didn't welcome me, er, I mean, my friend at Today.

The consensus determined that you were only there to disrupt, mock, troll, and spam the forum, which is why we had to part ways with you, er, I mean, your friend ;)

[opethmike]

The consensus determined that you were only there to disrupt, mock, troll, and spam the forum, which is why we had to part ways with you, er, I mean, your friend ;)

Yeah, screw my friend acting just like how everybody else on Today does! Darn him, darn him to heck!

[Michael]

... we welcome all at Today :thumbup:

As long as you can afford a DeLorean

[opethmike]

As long as you can afford a DeLorean

And aren't a purist.

[NightFlyer]

As long as you can afford a DeLorean

We have members who don't own, or can afford, a DeLorean, thank you very much.


And aren't a purist.

My car is about as pure as one can get, so I honestly don't know what you're talking about.


http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=25917&d=1394223159

[Michael]

We have members who don't own, or can afford, a DeLorean, thank you very much.

And you are sure to let them know where their place is too


you're welcome

[opethmike]

Couple of questions -

1. Have you considered flying during the day time? It would be much easier.

2. You seem to need a big hug. Is that the case?



We have members who don't own, or can afford, a DeLorean, thank you very much.



My car is about as pure as one can get, so I honestly don't know what you're talking about.


http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=25917&d=1394223159

[NightFlyer]

And you are sure to let them know where their place is too

I did? Care to elaborate on that?

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=25919&d=1394225020

[NightFlyer]

2. You seem to need a big hug. Is that the case?

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=25920&d=1394225559

[opethmike]

Okay, now what about flying during the day time?

[NightFlyer]

Okay, now what about flying during the day time?

http://www.cntraveler.com/daily-traveler/2013/02/planes-night-flights-explained/_jcr_content/par/cn_contentwell/par-main/cn_colctrl/par-col2/cn_blogpost/cn_image.size.airplane-moon-flying.jpg

[opethmike]

http://www.cntraveler.com/daily-traveler/2013/02/planes-night-flights-explained/_jcr_content/par/cn_contentwell/par-main/cn_colctrl/par-col2/cn_blogpost/cn_image.size.airplane-moon-flying.jpg

Now you're just hurting my feelings.

[NightFlyer]

Now you're just hurting my feelings.

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=25921&d=1394227341

[Ikeaboy1]

Wow. Pretty mean spirited stuff being said about Chris Burns over there.

[Kane]

Wow. Pretty mean spirited stuff being said about Chris Burns over there.

Yep and in the same breath they call us "immature" and "mean". That's some mighty fine hypocrisy there, Lou.

[thirdmanj]

Wow. Pretty mean spirited stuff being said about Chris Burns over there.

Seems to go counter to their cardinal rule over there. "Be nice".

[NightFlyer]

Seems to go counter to their cardinal rule over there. "Be nice".

Difference between being critical and being not nice...

[valdez]

Looks like an Anchorman throw down is unnecessary.


Why resort to sticks and stones when clearly words are enough to defeat these thin skinned smelly pirate hookers?

At DMC today I hear that their periods attract bears. The bears can smell the menstruation.
Where did they get their clothes, the toilet store?

Stay classy DMC Today!


I appreciate DMC Today as there are less humorless weenies here now. Now if only all the Captain Obvious know-it-alls who seem to know little had a special place.

[Rich_NYS]

Questions:

-Do I have to choose a side, or can I fight as an independent?

-Do I have to wear a tie?

[thirdmanj]

Difference between being critical and being not nice...

"Chris Burns is a lap dog..."
Yes, I'd say that's objectively critical.

But it's pointless to argue with you. You could rationalize the Holocaust if it suited your purposes.

[NightFlyer]

Questions:

-Do I have to choose a side, or can I fight as an independent?

-Do I have to wear a tie?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF2UrYSDb3k

[NightFlyer]

Looks like an Anchorman throw down is unnecessary.


Why resort to sticks and stones when clearly words are enough to defeat these thin skinned smelly pirate hookers?

At DMC today I hear that their periods attract bears. The bears can smell the menstruation.
Where did they get their clothes, the toilet store?

Stay classy DMC Today!


I appreciate DMC Today as there are less humorless weenies here now. Now if only all the Captain Obvious know-it-alls who seem to know little had a special place.

:drunk:

[NightFlyer]

"Chris Burns is a lap dog..."
Yes, I'd say that's objectively critical.

But it's pointless to argue with you. You could rationalize the Holocaust if it suited your purposes.

Bill did provide supporting evidence to back up his assertion.

Honestly, I personally don't know much about Mr. Burns and could honestly care less.

[Michael]

Bill did provide supporting evidence to back up his assertion.

But not empirical evidence.

[ccurzio]

Honestly, I personally don't know much about Mr. Burns and could honestly care less.

If you could care less, that means your level of caring is nonzero, defeating the point you were trying to make. I believe you meant to say that you couldn't care less, as in the level of your caring had already reached zero.

[Ryan]

If you could care less, that means your level of caring is nonzero, defeating the point you were trying to make. I believe you meant to say that you couldn't care less, as in the level of your caring had already reached zero.

Ah yes


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw

[NightFlyer]

But not empirical evidence.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91wwMVyzqSA

[NightFlyer]

If you could care less, that means your level of caring is nonzero, defeating the point you were trying to make. I believe you meant to say that you couldn't care less, as in the level of your caring had already reached zero.

No, no - I fully meant what I said. I do care a little, as I wouldn't want to see someone being belittled/defamed for a completely arbitrary reason. I just don't care enough about this particular situation to find out if the term 'lap dog' is fairly applicable or not, because said term really isn't all that cruel to begin with.

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=25924&d=1394237223

[Kane]

because said term really isn't all that cruel to begin with.

Oh, I see...

Calling someone a lap dog = Not Cruel
An emoticon of a cartoon getting kicked in the nuts = Cruel

DMCToday has a strange way of deciding what is or isn't "mean" or "cruel"

[opethmike]

Oh, I see...

Calling someone a lap dog = Not Cruel
An emoticon of a cartoon getting kicked in the nuts = Cruel

DMCToday has a strange way of deciding what is or isn't "mean" or "cruel"

It is actually very simple -

If DMCToday did it, here's a long diatribe on why it is okay.
If DMCTalk did it, it is wrong, hypocritical and the person doing it smells like poop.

[NightFlyer]

Oh, I see...

Calling someone a lap dog = Not Cruel
An emoticon of a cartoon getting kicked in the nuts = Cruel

DMCToday has a strange way of deciding what is or isn't "mean" or "cruel"

No, no - you're obviously not seeing...

1) Lap dog = not THAT cruel. It's admittedly a little cruel, but hardly the worst thing that could be said about another

2) When exactly did I say that "an emoticon of a cartoon getting kicked in the nuts = Cruel?"

Plus, if one wants to be cruel/vulgar/not nice, there's a place for that over on DMCToday - it's called Thirdmanj's Corner :tongue2:

[yellowmxwheels23]

If this actually goes down at DCS, someone please film it.
I can see it now. Talk sitting on one side of the room, today on the other. No eye contact.

[Michael]

If this actually goes down at DCS, someone please film it.
I can see it now. Talk sitting on one side of the room, today on the other. No eye contact.

Probably look something like:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDFQQseeslg

[NightFlyer]

I was thinking something more like this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFT20cpu9C0

[DeLorean03]

What is the point of this thread?

I'm just asking - not as a moderator - but as an observer. What productive, efficient, and effective objectives are being strived for and eventually accomplished ?

I wonder if Ferrari and Shelby Cobra forums exhibit this kind of behavior.

[opethmike]

What is the point of this thread?

I'm just asking - not as a moderator - but as an observer. What productive, efficient, and effective objectives are being strived for and eventually accomplished ?

Who needs a point when you have hilarity?


I wonder if Ferrari and Shelby Cobra forums exhibit this kind of behavior.

No, they're dull, old white men.

[sdg3205]

Who needs a point when you have hilarity?



No, they're dull, old white men.

As a dull white man, I take moderate offense.

[opethmike]

As a dull white man, I take moderate offense.

As an interesting white man, I moderately apologize.

[Michael]

What productive, efficient, and effective objectives are being strived for and eventually accomplished ?

Dear God...do we need to use this for all future Talk threads?

http://cdn3.free-power-point-templates.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/strategy-ppt.jpg

[opethmike]

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[sdg3205]

As an interesting white man, I moderately apologize.

As a moderately interesting fact, white men do a lot of apologizing.

[opethmike]

As a moderately interesting fact, white men do a lot of apologizing.

I am moderately intrigued by this factoid.

[sdg3205]

I am moderately intrigued by this factoid.

Everything in moderation.

[NightFlyer]

What is the point of this thread?

I'm just asking - not as a moderator - but as an observer. What productive, efficient, and effective objectives are being strived for and eventually accomplished ?

I've been trying to figure that out since it started, despite having participated... :dunno:

[opethmike]

Use your empirical evidence to come to a conclusion.

[DeLorean03]

Dear God...do we need to use this for all future Talk threads?

http://cdn3.free-power-point-templates.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/strategy-ppt.jpg

Sounds good to me :).

[DashEight]

What is the point of this thread?

I'm just asking - not as a moderator - but as an observer. What productive, efficient, and effective objectives are being strived for and eventually accomplished ?

I wonder if Ferrari and Shelby Cobra forums exhibit this kind of behavior.

This is very tame compared to Honda and VW forums. -P

[DeLorean03]

Wonder what the age/income demographic of the Honda versus the Ferrari forums are :P.

[Michael]

Wonder what the age/income demographic of the Honda versus the Ferrari forums are :P.

As long as we are asking obvious questions...I wonder what the age/income demographic is of the Boca Raton community vs. The Florida State campus dorms?

[DMCVegas]

I am moderately intrigued by this factoid.

Crumb was right!

http://www.stat.pitt.edu/stoffer/whiteman.gif




I've been trying to figure that out since it started, despite having participated... :dunno:

http://media.onsugar.com/files/2011/04/16/1/1582/15820361/e5/lulz.jpg




If this actually goes down at DCS, someone please film it.
I can see it now. Talk sitting on one side of the room, today on the other. No eye contact.

Our table would probably be a conversation that keeps shifting gears to various subjects, while in between we take turns pulling up random, related memes and obscure references on our phones to show to the group for a chuckle. Today's table would be a huddled tinfoil hat meeting where they belittle us or keep biting their fingernails about what we're going to do to them. I perused that thread and site a bit yesterday, and there is a TON of fear mongering going on over there about potential vandalism by Talk members being committed on their cars. Totally unfounded bullshit by them as usual.

[NightFlyer]

I perused that thread and site a bit yesterday, and there is a TON of fear mongering going on over there about potential vandalism by Talk members being committed on their cars. Totally unfounded bullshit by them as usual.

Exaggerate much? And no, there is no fear mongering going on "about potential vandalism by Talk members being committed on their cars." A general concern about potential vandalism committed by anyone was validly raised after it was revealed that there were incidents at past shows, primarily concerning the BTTF time machine conversion crowd. Such incidents are fully documented on the DML, and NOT Today, which merely referenced the DML anecdotes.

But hey, why let the objective facts stand in the way of some good out-of-context smear against Today, right?

[DMCVegas]

Exaggerate much? And no, there is no fear mongering going on "about potential vandalism by Talk members being committed on their cars." A general concern about potential vandalism committed by anyone was validly raised after it was revealed that there were incidents at past shows, primarily concerning the BTTF time machine conversion crowd. Such incidents are fully documented on the DML, and NOT Today, which merely referenced the DML anecdotes.

But hey, why let the objective facts stand in the way of some good out-of-context smear against Today, right?

Really now?
So Steve's allegations that someone threw dirt onto his hood to scrawl out a message that permanent damaged his car (he claims to still see the writing) and the subsequent posts about vandalism at DCS were just imagined by me then? Is that what you're saying?

[NightFlyer]

Really now?
So Steve's allegations that someone threw dirt onto his hood to scrawl out a message that permanent damaged his car (he claims to still see the writing) and the subsequent posts about vandalism at DCS were just imagined by me then? Is that what you're saying?

Apparently, the emphasis in my last post, via use of bold typeface, was lost on you. The part you're imagining is where you claim that such a concern was raised due to Talk members.

Where exactly did Steve claim that such damage was done by a disgruntled Talk member, because that part of his statement eludes me, probably because it doesn't actually exist, except in your mind.

Once again, a GENERAL concern about vandalism being committed by ANYONE, of any affiliation or no affiliation, was validly raised because of incidents that occurred at past shows.

If you're not understanding this, then I suggest some remedial reading comprehension classes.

[GS450-Junkie]

I think it's been too long of a winter for everyone... time for spring to come so we can get out and enjoy some fresh air, mow the lawn, hang up our capes and top hats on the line to dry in the nice warm sun....

[NightFlyer]

I think it's been too long of a winter for everyone... time for spring to come so we can get out and enjoy some fresh air, mow the lawn, hang up our capes and top hats on the line to dry in the nice warm sun....

Indeed! :yoda:

[opethmike]

Nightflyer really just needs a hug.

[tom kish vin. 4357]

Nightflyer really just needs a hug.

forget the hug,what he needs is 4 new tires to get him from michigan to ohio in june without wrecking his car!!!

[DeLorean03]

As long as we are asking obvious questions...I wonder what the age/income demographic is of the Boca Raton community vs. The Florida State campus dorms?

Stop hurting my feelings D: !!

[opethmike]

I think that Jeremiah needs a hug too.

[DMCVegas]

Apparently, the emphasis in my last post, via use of bold typeface, was lost on you. The part you're imagining is where you claim that such a concern was raised due to Talk members.

Where exactly did Steve claim that such damage was done by a disgruntled Talk member, because that part of his statement eludes me, probably because it doesn't actually exist, except in your mind.

Once again, a GENERAL concern about vandalism being committed by ANYONE, of any affiliation or no affiliation, was validly raised because of incidents that occurred at past shows.

If you're not understanding this, then I suggest some remedial reading comprehension classes.

http://www.ishmaelscorner.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Cool-Hand-Luke.jpg

So it turns out that what we have here is a typo. I wrote "talk" when I should have written "Today". My intent was to say that the conversion was being had by "Today" members, but the typo made it appear as though it was as you interpreted it to be. Which is how we got here.

My bad in this case. Of course though any sign of weakness is immediate met with the onslaught of Rabid Chihuahuas, and I fully expect my acknowledgment of a mistake in this case shall be no different. So bring it on and let slip the little dogs of war from over there.

That is of course the big difference between Talk and Today. We have ribbings here and humor, but do of course admit mistakes and try to mend fences whenever possible. DMCToday is just so full anger that you all are just ready to jump on anything. Especially as we saw with the whole unprovoked mocking of Chris Burns. And let me say right now, that was fucked up and uncalled for, but is a perfect example of the caliber of people you have over there. I dunno, maybe it's something that your cult leader there is putting in your Kool-Aid. Opps, I mean Cheer Wine. See, there I go again with those typos…

[Michael]

Stop hurting my feelings D: !!

:grouphugg::cheers:

[SamHill]

DMCToday is just so full anger that you all are just ready to jump on anything. Especially as we saw with the whole unprovoked mocking of Chris Burns. And let me say right now, that was fucked up and uncalled for, but is a perfect example of the caliber of people you have over there. I dunno, maybe it's something that your cult leader there is putting in your Kool-Aid. Opps, I mean Cheer Wine. See, there I go again with those typos…

You're a regular reader of content posted on dmctoday?

[NightFlyer]

So it turns out that what we have here is a typo. I wrote "talk" when I should have written "Today". My intent was to say that the conversion was being had by "Today" members, but the typo made it appear as though it was as you interpreted it to be. Which is how we got here.

My bad in this case. Of course though any sign of weakness is immediate met with the onslaught of Rabid Chihuahuas, and I fully expect my acknowledgment of a mistake in this case shall be no different. So bring it on and let slip the little dogs of war from over there.

That is of course the big difference between Talk and Today. We have ribbings here and humor, but do of course admit mistakes and try to mend fences whenever possible. DMCToday is just so full anger that you all are just ready to jump on anything. Especially as we saw with the whole unprovoked mocking of Chris Burns. And let me say right now, that was fucked up and uncalled for, but is a perfect example of the caliber of people you have over there. I dunno, maybe it's something that your cult leader there is putting in your Kool-Aid. Opps, I mean Cheer Wine. See, there I go again with those typos…

OK, so even if I accept your typo excuse, you're still saying that my concerns about potential vandalism at DCS are completely unfounded and BS, even though it's fully documented on the DML that certain owners/members (whom I won't name here, as you can read the reports on the DML for yourself) were previously caught red handed removing parts from other attendees cars while at the show. Well, maybe it wouldn't phase you one way or the other if you had parts removed from your car by a fellow owner/member while attending the show, but I most certainly would. If that makes me full of shit in your eyes, so be it, but just so you know, I worked hard for my car and to make it what it is and I don't take lightly to others who would try to steal from me or intentionally/maliciously damage my private property. Call it a values thing, or even pride of ownership, but I would think that most here would be pretty pissed off if they woke up to discover that parts had been removed from their car or some other act of vandalism had occurred to their car by another owner/member as they slept. But seeing as how such act(s) apparently wouldn't phase you one way or the other, then you can put your time, effort, and money into getting your car running, drive it to the show, and allow others to do with it as they please, while facing no resistance from you. But until you actually do this, I for one won't believe it. In fact, such is directly contrary to positions that you've taken in the past, which only leads me to believe that you're talking out of your ass in regards to such a statement.

As to what others said about Mr. Burns on Today - I honestly don't know the totality of the situation and could honestly care less - and yeah, I said that correctly, as I do care a little, but apparently not as much as you. The position was explained and backed up by anecdotal evidence (and if the .com archives were ever restored, then we'd also have empirical evidence). But what does it matter - that's between them.

Honestly, this whole thing is just idiotic IMHO. As for our "cult leader,"

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=25940&d=1394329390

[Iznodmad]

There were a handful of people around when the dirt got thrown on Steve's hood. I was one of them and saw it with my own eyes. It was self-inflicted and this was born the "dirtiest DeLorean" award.

[Michael]

There were a handful of people around when the dirt got thrown on Steve's hood. I was one of them and saw it with my own eyes. It was self-inflicted and this was born the "dirtiest DeLorean" award.

Are you saying Steve Rice was the vandal who damaged Steve Rice's car?

[Iznodmad]

Yes.

[SamHill]

There were a handful of people around when the dirt got thrown on Steve's hood. I was one of them and saw it with my own eyes. It was self-inflicted and this was born the "dirtiest DeLorean" award.


Steve, low calibre person that he is, might have confirmed as such on this delorean e-forum if he could. Unfortunately, he didn't make the dmcvegas "mended fences" list.

[NightFlyer]

There were a handful of people around when the dirt got thrown on Steve's hood. I was one of them and saw it with my own eyes. It was self-inflicted and this was born the "dirtiest DeLorean" award.

I was never concerned about that - what concerned me are the anecdotes that can be found chronicled on the DML, wherein certain owners/members were caught removing parts from other owners cars without the knowledge or assent of those owners. It appears to be limited to the BTTF time machine conversion crowd, but it's still concerning that such antics would even go on at such a function.

[Michael]

The Today camp has gained quite the reputation:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0znNiN0lYAQ

[NightFlyer]

The Today camp has gained quite the reputation:

Only amongst those who believe in the false propaganda and rhetoric of He Who Walks Behind The Rows, much like this guy:

http://content9.flixster.com/photo/11/14/02/11140227_gal.jpg

[thirdmanj]

Only amongst those who believe in the false propaganda and rhetoric of He Who Walks Behind The Rows, much like this guy:

http://content9.flixster.com/photo/11/14/02/11140227_gal.jpg

It's not false. I saw it on Fox News.

[DMCVegas]

No, I was referencing the sudden fear mongering of how people were suddenly scared to bring their cars to shows. And as much beef as I might have with someone, I don't fuck with their cars. I know what it's like to put love into a vehicle and have people try and shit on you. Doesn't matter what it is, I consider vandalism and theft off-limits. But hey, go on ahead and put words in my mouth.


http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=25940&d=1394329390

Yeah, I doubt that. He's the one who threw a tantrum and turned on me when I wanted to take carb conversions out of his hands and give them to everyone without his involvement. Contrary to what you and others may believe, I don't hate carbs. What I hated was your dear leader's fear mongering he used to scare people into becoming indebted to him. I didn't want him "slaving" over making carb manifolds in his garage. I wanted to draft plans with measurements and instructions on how to chop a K-Jet manifold and convert it into using a carb. And I also wanted him to stop it with the "woe is poor me looking for Autolite carbs!" crap and either source an easier alternative or at least allow for a manifold where we could use whatever we pleased.

My goal was to get DeLoreans back on the road without Bill Robertson being involved, plain and simple. Create a conversion how-to document with step by step instructions and give it for free to anyone who wanted it. And all Bill did was toss out straw man arguments, and when that failed he'd try to belittle me each and every step of the way to keep it from happening. And guess what? He won because I gave up. I didn't want you to have a "Robertson Conversion". I wanted you to have a DeLorean Carb Conversion. I wanted a standardized procedure that would be considered acceptable by the entire community. Instead all Bill did was trick you all into an "us versus them" mentality thinking that the rest of us with original fuel injection are somehow "purists" that look down upon you. The truth is: We don't. If you think that carbs are a good idea, superior to K-Jet, or what the hell ever, good for you. But I'll challenge you: Go ahead and try to cut Bill out and see what happens. Come up with a standardized procedure. Shit, you've got the Alpine Club & parts suppliers over in Europe that can get you the manifolds and carbs without his involvement. Go ahead and try to draft up a standard document for a DIY conversion that can be completed anywhere without Bill's involvement and then see how receptive he is to the idea. Let us know the results of how that goes. Create a documented procedure that doesn't bring me into contact with him at all to be a true DIY project, and I'll convert my car to a carburetor.

And no, I don't read Today at all save for the link that was recently posted, and admittedly a quick search to see if you posted about me. And no, you didn't disappoint.

[NightFlyer]

It's not false. I saw it on MSNBC.

Had to correct you again :biggrin:

[opethmike]

Mister Flyer, sir, this gentleman wants to have a word with you:

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[SamHill]

… fear mongering he used to scare people into becoming indebted to him. I didn't want him "slaving" over making carb manifolds in his garage. I wanted to draft plans with measurements and instructions on how to chop a K-Jet manifold and convert it into using a carb. And I also wanted him to stop it with the "woe is poor me looking for Autolite carbs!" crap and either source an easier alternative or at least allow for a manifold where we could use whatever we pleased.

My goal was to get DeLoreans back on the road without Bill Robertson being involved, plain and simple. Create a conversion how-to document with step by step instructions and give it for free to anyone who wanted it. And all Bill did was toss out straw man arguments, and when that failed he'd try to belittle me each and every step of the way to keep it from happening. And guess what? He won because I gave up. I didn't want you to have a "Robertson Conversion". I wanted you to have a DeLorean Carb Conversion. I wanted a standardized procedure that would be considered acceptable by the entire community. Instead all Bill did was trick you all into an "us versus them" mentality thinking that the rest of us with original fuel injection are somehow "purists" that look down upon you. The truth is: We don't. If you think that carbs are a good idea, superior to K-Jet, or what the hell ever, good for you. But I'll challenge you: Go ahead and try to cut Bill out and see what happens. Come up with a standardized procedure. Shit, you've got the Alpine Club & parts suppliers over in Europe that can get you the manifolds and carbs without his involvement. Go ahead and try to draft up a standard document for a DIY conversion that can be completed anywhere without Bill's involvement and then see how receptive he is to the idea. Let us know the results of how that goes. Create a documented procedure that doesn't bring me into contact with him at all to be a true DIY project, and I'll convert my car to a carburetor.

And no, I don't read Today at all save for the link that was recently posted, and admittedly a quick search to see if you posted about me. And no, you didn't disappoint.

Thanks! As for what you posted above, it makes as much sense as usual. He makes what he makes, although he has done plenty of fiddling with the rare peugeot manifolds rolling around. And at least one owner did go from a bill manifold to a peugeot one, successfully. There's not much there (in terms of existing manifolds) to help more than a couple people. If you were interested in cutting up a stock D manifold, byrne heninger would have been the one to contact. As far as the alpine connection goes, i called the original foundries. The molds are gone and would take big bucks to make new ones. In the end though, nobody but you is stopping your discovery of a better mousetrap, should you ever come up with it. It turns out that there are reasons for what owners have done.

[opethmike]

*hugs Sam*

[NightFlyer]

No, I was referencing the sudden fear mongering of how people were suddenly scared to bring their cars to shows. And as much beef as I might have with someone, I don't fuck with their cars. I know what it's like to put love into a vehicle and have people try and shit on you. Doesn't matter what it is, I consider vandalism and theft off-limits. But hey, go on ahead and put words in my mouth.

Yeah, I doubt that. He's the one who threw a tantrum and turned on me when I wanted to take carb conversions out of his hands and give them to everyone without his involvement. Contrary to what you and others may believe, I don't hate carbs. What I hated was your dear leader's fear mongering he used to scare people into becoming indebted to him. I didn't want him "slaving" over making carb manifolds in his garage. I wanted to draft plans with measurements and instructions on how to chop a K-Jet manifold and convert it into using a carb. And I also wanted him to stop it with the "woe is poor me looking for Autolite carbs!" crap and either source an easier alternative or at least allow for a manifold where we could use whatever we pleased.

My goal was to get DeLoreans back on the road without Bill Robertson being involved, plain and simple. Create a conversion how-to document with step by step instructions and give it for free to anyone who wanted it. And all Bill did was toss out straw man arguments, and when that failed he'd try to belittle me each and every step of the way to keep it from happening. And guess what? He won because I gave up. I didn't want you to have a "Robertson Conversion". I wanted you to have a DeLorean Carb Conversion. I wanted a standardized procedure that would be considered acceptable by the entire community. Instead all Bill did was trick you all into an "us versus them" mentality thinking that the rest of us with original fuel injection are somehow "purists" that look down upon you. The truth is: We don't. If you think that carbs are a good idea, superior to K-Jet, or what the hell ever, good for you. But I'll challenge you: Go ahead and try to cut Bill out and see what happens. Come up with a standardized procedure. Shit, you've got the Alpine Club & parts suppliers over in Europe that can get you the manifolds and carbs without his involvement. Go ahead and try to draft up a standard document for a DIY conversion that can be completed anywhere without Bill's involvement and then see how receptive he is to the idea. Let us know the results of how that goes. Create a documented procedure that doesn't bring me into contact with him at all to be a true DIY project, and I'll convert my car to a carburetor.

And no, I don't read Today at all save for the link that was recently posted, and admittedly a quick search to see if you posted about me. And no, you didn't disappoint.

1) Your original quote: "I perused that thread and site a bit yesterday, and there is a TON of fear mongering going on over there about potential vandalism by Talk members being committed on their cars. Totally unfounded bullshit by them as usual." Even if we change 'Talk' to 'Today,' and read it in the context you claim to have intended, you're still saying that my concerns for theft/vandalism at shows is "unfounded bullshit" and the "by them as usual" part apparently means that such concerns are only "unfounded bullshit" when people on Today make them, because I couldn't find where you called similarly expressed concerns on this forum to also be "unfounded bullshit," despite such concerns appearing more frequently on this forum:

http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?9180-Unobtainium-Rare-or-Extinct-DMC-Parts-amp-Components&p=134759&viewfull=1#post134759
http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?9187-Car-show-part-thefts

Funny how when multiple members here express such concerns, it doesn't warrant a response from you. But when I make a similar concern over on Today, you feel it necessary to call it "fear mongering" and "unfounded bullshit" - interesting how that works, isn't it? Not to mention that a few posts on a single thread over on Today appear to warrant the use of the emphasized descriptor "TONS" by you, while multiple posts spanning multiple threads here doesn't even show up on your radar.

And yet, we're the ones apparently drinking the Kool-Aid? Yeah....

2) Bill is not the "cult leader" of Today, but I'm Will Riker.

3) I have no idea what you're talking about, as my car is 100% K-Jet and is about as pure a DeLorean as you're likely to find - I'm still running the stock/OEM belts, NCTs, door struts, Ducey alternator, plastic header bottle, no front end recall, etc. The biggest modifications I made were to eliminate the heat riser (stove) pipe and hot air valve, and install some LEDs in the taillight cluster and door lights - all of which are easily returned to stock/OEM, which I intend on doing before entering my car in the DCS concours.

4) I like Bill, and I don't see how he's preventing you from doing anything that you've mentioned wanting to do above.

As for the great and glorious "cult leader" of Today, fore He has professed that:

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=25943&d=1394335193

[opethmike]

*hugs Nightflyer*

[tom kish vin. 4357]

Sorry NIGHTFLYER but i must call bullshit on your last post ( as my car is 100% K-Jet and is about as pure a DeLorean as you're likely to find )!!!

[thirdmanj]

Had to correct you again :biggrin:

Well shit. If it's on MSNBC and Fox News, it's definitely legit.

[wnorris89]

I would vote but I don't see an option for french toast.

[opethmike]

I would vote but I don't see an option for french toast.

Hi Steve Rice.

[RoyHinkley]

Who's with me!??

We would have to know who's side you are on before we can say if we are 'with you' or not. Besides I'm way too far away down here on this little island to meet up anyway. Not that you obviously meant a real fight, just an internet virtual fight. Good luck with your high school fight J. You seem to be doing a fine job stabbing both forums in the back on each forum. That says a lot in itself.
Respectfully,
Professor Roy Hinkley

[thirdmanj]

We would have to know who's side you are on before we can say if we are 'with you' or not. Besides I'm way too far away down here to meet up anyway. Good luck with your high school fight J.

:umm:

[NightFlyer]

We would have to know who's side you are on before we can say if we are 'with you' or not. Besides I'm way too far away down here on this little island to meet up anyway. Not that you obviously meant a real fight, just an internet virtual fight. Good luck with your high school fight J. You seem to be doing a fine job stabbing both forums in the back on each forum. That says a lot in itself.
Respectfully,
Professor Roy Hinkley

:thumbup:

Thirdmanj just got schooled! :nutkick:

[Michael]

We would have to know who's side you are on before we can say if we are 'with you' or not. Besides I'm way too far away down here on this little island to meet up anyway. Not that you obviously meant a real fight, just an internet virtual fight. Good luck with your high school fight J. You seem to be doing a fine job stabbing both forums in the back on each forum. That says a lot in itself.
Respectfully,
Professor Roy Hinkley

Neither witty nor funny...just plain weird, like serial killer wierd.:umm:

[opethmike]

:thumbup:

Thirdmanj just got schooled! :nutkick:

Not really, Captain Butthurt.

[OverlandMan]

Neither witty nor funny...just plain weird, like serial killer wierd.:umm:
+1

Roy, any relation to this guy?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/John_Hinckley%2C_Jr._Mugshot.png/220px-John_Hinckley%2C_Jr._Mugshot.png

[Mike C.]

Not that it matters, but Professor Roy Hinkley was the Professor on Gilligan's Island.

With that bit of trivia, everyone PLEASE lets try to maintain a peaceful DeLorean community between our forum and their forum. Steve Rice and I spoke a few months back before my absence from this forum and there's no bad feelings between us, and in the best interest of the DeLorean community, lets just work to keep it like that. We aren't going to throw jabs at them, so just let their forum exist in peace. They are entitled to their style of forum just as we are entitled to ours. I'm sure between the two and DMCHelp, there are enough DeLorean discussions going on for everyone.

-Mike

[Ron]

...ah you suck, but not as bad as the sock puppets.

[NightFlyer]

Not really, Captain Butthurt.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/68/6870012cdad1b982dda68b1b21d61f6c85be6d139804f12dea 974be03bb6d362.jpg


...ah you suck, but not as bad as the sock puppets.

http://troll.me/images/listen-brother/listen-brother-i-love-you-with-every-fiber-of-my-being.jpg

[RoyHinkley]

Not that it matters, but Professor Roy Hinkley was the Professor on Gilligan's Island.

With that bit of trivia, everyone PLEASE lets try to maintain a peaceful DeLorean community between our forum and their forum. Steve Rice and I spoke a few months back before my absence from this forum and there's no bad feelings between us, and in the best interest of the DeLorean community, lets just work to keep it like that. We aren't going to throw jabs at them, so just let their forum exist in peace. They are entitled to their style of forum just as we are entitled to ours. I'm sure between the two and DMCHelp, there are enough DeLorean discussions going on for everyone.

-Mike


I agree, just doing schooling like I did before I got stranded here on this damn island. No serial killer association, at least not me.

[thirdmanj]

Neither witty nor funny...just plain weird, like serial killer wierd.:umm:

:werd:

And who's "stabbing in the back"? If you can't tell the joking tone of this LoL rich thread, I question your credentials, professor.

[Ron]

http://troll.me/images/listen-brother/listen-brother-i-love-you-with-every-fiber-of-my-being.jpg

Right back at you man.

BTW RE: Twinkle toes (http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?9214-DeLorean-Texas-sued-by-DeLorean-estate&p=136121&viewfull=1#post136121). That night, I said you made my toes "tingle" , not "twinkle".

[Rich W]

I'm sure between the two and DMCHelp, there are enough DeLorean discussions going on for everyone.

DMCHelp seems to have gone the way of DMCTalk.com, but I am not sure that many folks noticed. Gone for at least 6 months now?

[Mike C.]

I didn't even notice DMCHelp was gone. Thanks for the info, Rich.

[RoyHinkley]

:werd:

And who's "stabbing in the back"? If you can't tell the joking tone of this LoL rich thread, I question your credentials, professor.

Touché , but this is not the only thread where you act like this. I feel it's just your nature. I even PM'd you and said how you can't take all this Internet stuff too seriously. LOL I will, but I won't cry about it later.
YOU are the one taking this all too seriously.

Professor Roy Hinkley (who doesn't need J's approval on my credentials)

[thirdmanj]

Touché , but this is not the only thread where you act like this. I feel it's just your nature. I even PM'd you and said how you can't take all this Internet stuff too seriously. LOL I will, but I won't cry about it later.
YOU are the one taking this all too seriously.

Professor Roy Hinkley (who doesn't need J's approval on my credentials)

Now you sound like Steve. It's one of you twits. What's the matter? Miss trolling Talk or something?
You know fuck all about my nature, friend. It's a joke.

[RoyHinkley]

Now you sound like Steve. It's one of you twits. What's the matter? Miss trolling Talk or something?
You know fuck all about my nature, friend. It's a joke.

Not trolling, just being honest with you and calling it like i've seen it. You display your nature in the way you act here and there. Dead wrong about who I am BTW. And again, I don't need you to verify my credentials.
But let's call off the crap and have peace.
I think we can all respect that.
I know Mike would respect that.

Professor Roy Hinkley

[sean]

26145

[GS450-Junkie]

Saw the Hulkster and couldn't resist....

[NightFlyer]

BTW RE: Twinkle toes (http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?9214-DeLorean-Texas-sued-by-DeLorean-estate&p=136121&viewfull=1#post136121). That night, I said you made my toes "tingle" , not "twinkle".

My bad - as you well know, I was a little preoccupied that night :tongue2:

[RoyHinkley]

26145


Mike, here's yet another example of mods doing just what they say not to do. Hypocritical, I can see. Not to sound like Yoda.

Unless this is the post you were mentioning when you were calling out Sean on his post.

And J, I don't see any indication to call any of my posts 'weird ass', you have never even seen my backside. LOL

I don't mean to keep this going, but I can see I'm really not the only one who's keeping this going, Sean and J are too.

Professor Roy Hinkley

[RoyHinkley]

My bad - as you well know, I was a little preoccupied that night :tongue2:

When did the proper phrase "My fault" get changed in society to the grammatically incorrect phrase " My bad"?
Not to sound racial, but was it when people of both races started wearing their ants under their gluteus Maximus muscles?
And no disrespect to you NightFlyer, I can see you are a respectful person.
And what's wrong with looking at the forums as a guest before signing up for an account. If you look at the Today home page, it usually lists more guests online than members.


Professor Roy Hinkley

[NightFlyer]

When did the proper phrase "My fault" get changed in society to the grammatically incorrect phrase " My bad"?
Not to sound racial, but was it when people of both races started wearing their ants under their gluteus Maximus muscles?
And no disrespect to you NightFlyer, I can see you are a respectful person.
And what's wrong with looking at the forums as a guest before signing up for an account. If you look at the Today home page, it usually lists more guests online than members.


Professor Roy Hinkley

Good question Professor - I honestly don't know. According to Wikipedia (the always accurate definitive/ultimate source of modern knowledge), the idiom originated on playground basketball courts in the 1970's / 1980's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_bad

Thankfully, I always wear the top of my pants at the waist line, as intended :thumbup:

I personally don't see anything wrong with viewing the forums as a guest before signing up for an account. I followed .com for several years before signing up, and even then, it was a couple more years before I actually started participating.

[RoyHinkley]

Good question Professor - I honestly don't know. According to Wikipedia (the always accurate definitive/ultimate source of modern knowledge), the idiom originated on playground basketball courts in the 1970's / 1980's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_bad

Thankfully, I always wear the top of my pants at the waist line, as intended :thumbup:

I personally don't see anything wrong with viewing the forums as a guest before signing up for an account. I followed .com for several years before signing up, and even then, it was a couple more years before I actually started participating.

The hanging waistline was a rapper's idea from what I hear, it's supposed to glamorize jail, because in jail the clothes they make you wear don't always fit and are droopy. That older style with one pant leg up was meant to glamorize drug dealers, supposedly drug dealers on the street would pull one pant leg up so buyers (patrons?) could recognize them.

The surfing before signing up question was pointed a ThirdmanJ. (Mr. Hypocrite)
He said I was weird because of it. I think his 'weirdness' is plainly obvious from his posts on both forums, as well as some Pm's I've received from him. What a filthy mouthed little boy. <- Gender still unsure. LOL
He can dish it out but can't take it obviously. Remember his rant on Today demanding Chad to be banned? Tells me not to take things seriously which I agree but then takes my humorous jabs seriously. It's all in good humor everyone!

Professor Roy Hinkley

[Ron]

My bad - as you well know, I was a little preoccupied that night :tongue2::D

[GS450-Junkie]

The hanging waistline was a rapper's idea from what I hear, it's supposed to glamorize jail, because in jail the clothes they make you wear don't always fit and are droopy. That older style with one pant leg up was meant to glamorize drug dealers, supposedly drug dealers on the street would pull one pant leg up so buyers (patrons?) could recognize them.

Professor Roy Hinkley


Actually.... you are right about jail. The part you left out was that a drooping waist line was to advertise your homo-sexuality and availability to the other inmates. In fact, the "lower" you wore your pants, the "more available" you were for the people in the yard. It's well documented....

[Michael]

Actually.... you are right about jail. The part you left out was that a drooping waist line was to advertise your homo-sexuality and availability to the other inmates. In fact, the "lower" you wore your pants, the "more available" you were for the people in the yard. It's well documented....

Me in prison:
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100709151636/southpark/images/6/6f/KennyMcCormick.png

[Farrar]

Actually.... you are right about jail. The part you left out was that a drooping waist line was to advertise your homo-sexuality and availability to the other inmates. In fact, the "lower" you wore your pants, the "more available" you were for the people in the yard. It's well documented....

...and well-refuted.

http://www.snopes.com/risque/homosex/sagging.asp

[GS450-Junkie]

Maybe snopes wears it's pants low....

[Kane]

I just looked at the Open Discussion areas of both DMCTalk and DMCToday.

The first page of each has 20 threads displayed. Of those (before this post's bump), here's how things break down.

DMCToday:
4 threads created to specifically talk about DMCTalk
3 additional threads where DMCTalk is mentioned (always negatively) on the first page of the thread

DMCTalk:
0 threads created to specifically talk about DMCToday
2 additional threads where DMCToday is mentioned (neither one negatively) on the first page of the thread

For a forum that hates us so much, they seem to want to talk about us an awfully lot.

[Michael]

I just looked at the Open Discussion areas of both DMCTalk and DMCToday.

The first page of each has 20 threads displayed. Of those (before this post's bump), here's how things break down.

DMCToday:
4 threads created to specifically talk about DMCTalk
3 additional threads where DMCTalk is mentioned (always negatively) on the first page of the thread

DMCTalk:
0 threads created to specifically talk about DMCToday
2 additional threads where DMCToday is mentioned (neither one negatively) on the first page of the thread

For a forum that hates us so much, they seem to want to talk about us an awfully lot.

Probably because Today is allowed to talk about Talk. Talk on the other hand does not have that freedom.

Not complaining, just explaining.

[NightFlyer]

I just looked at the Open Discussion areas of both DMCTalk and DMCToday.

The first page of each has 20 threads displayed. Of those (before this post's bump), here's how things break down.

DMCToday:
4 threads created to specifically talk about DMCTalk
3 additional threads where DMCTalk is mentioned (always negatively) on the first page of the thread

DMCTalk:
0 threads created to specifically talk about DMCToday
2 additional threads where DMCToday is mentioned (neither one negatively) on the first page of the thread

For a forum that hates us so much, they seem to want to talk about us an awfully lot.

Ummm... wasn't this thread, the one that you're posting in, "created to specifically talk about DMCToday?"

[Michael]

Ummm... wasn't this thread, the one that you're posting in, "created to sppiecifically talk about DMCToday?"

It was, but since this thread's incarnation, the mods have made it clear there is to be no more "us vs. them" type of threads. I humbly suggest if you want to talk about any problems with today.com, or politics, or religion, or gun control, you do it where it's tolerated.

[Kane]

Ummm... wasn't this thread, the one that you're posting in, "created to specifically talk about DMCToday?"

That's why I said "before this post's bump"

[NightFlyer]

I just looked at the Open Discussion areas of both DMCTalk and DMCToday.

The first page of each has 20 threads displayed. Of those (before this post's bump), here's how things break down.

DMCToday:
4 threads created to specifically talk about DMCTalk
3 additional threads where DMCTalk is mentioned (always negatively) on the first page of the thread

For a forum that hates us so much, they seem to want to talk about us an awfully lot.


Umm... actually this just isn't true/accurate.

There's only 1 thread on the first page of the Open section on DMCToday that was "created to specifically talk about DMCTalk," that being the thread entitled 'They run a tight ship over on that other forum...'.

Where exactly you're getting the other 3 from that you're asserting here, I honestly don't have clue, but it obviously isn't premised in objective reality.

And these "3 additional threads where DMCTalk is mentioned (always negatively) on the first page of the thread," again, I have no idea what you're talking about, as Talk isn't always mentioned negatively where it appears on DMCToday.

Also, it was your bump that re-elevated this thread to front page status here - and for what? To sow the seeds of division and discontent - yeah, that was definitely worth while, wasn't it?

Come on - REALLY?!?!

Let it go already...

[Kane]

Umm... actually this just isn't true/accurate.

There's only 1 thread on the first page of the Open section on DMCToday that was "created to specifically talk about DMCTalk," that being the thread entitled 'They run a tight ship over on that other forum...'.

Where exactly you're getting the other 3 from that you're asserting here, I honestly don't have clue, but it obviously isn't premised in objective reality.

1. Talk Lurking Today (http://dmctoday.com/showthread.php?610-Talk-Lurking-Today)
2. They run a tight ship over on that other forum... (http://dmctoday.com/showthread.php?498-They-run-a-tight-ship-over-on-that-other-forum)
3. Well it finally happened! (http://dmctoday.com/showthread.php?602-Well-it-finally-happened!)
4. Banned! (http://dmctoday.com/showthread.php?593-Banned!)


And these "3 additional threads where DMCTalk is mentioned (always negatively) on the first page of the thread," again, I have no idea what you're talking about,

1. Wouldn't be so bad if his haircut wasn't so jacked up (http://dmctoday.com/showthread.php?594-Wouldn-t-be-so-bad-if-his-haircut-wasn-t-so-jacked-up&p=9272&viewfull=1#post9272) (and before you say he wasn't talking about Talk, what else would that be in reference to?)
2. Dumbass kid brings gun to school (http://dmctoday.com/showthread.php?614-Dumbass-kid-brings-gun-to-school&p=9775&viewfull=1#post9775)
3. Anyone buy tickets for the DCS raffle? (http://dmctoday.com/showthread.php?586-Anyone-buy-tickets-for-the-DCS-raffle&p=9113&viewfull=1#post9113)


as Talk isn't always mentioned negatively where it appears on DMCToday.

I didn't say it was always mentioned negatively every time it appears on DMCToday. I said it was mentioned negatively on the 3 occurrences it was mentioned within the 20 most recent threads of Open Discussion.

[NightFlyer]

1. Talk Lurking Today

This thread is merely discussing how Talk members are viewing Today threads as guests, as opposed to registered members - 1) It's not about Talk, but rather Talk members; and 2) what's so negative about that exactly?


2. They run a tight ship over on that other forum...

I admitted to this thread, but if pointing out inconsistent application of the rules by admin/mods is negative, as opposed to a merely technical discussion, then so be it.


3. Well it finally happened!

This thread is not about Talk - it's about Michael's internet browsing tendencies.


4. Banned!

This thread is not about Talk - it's about Google search results on Bill's name in conjunction with the term 'DeLorean.'


1. Wouldn't be so bad if his haircut wasn't so jacked up (and before you say he wasn't talking about Talk, what else would that be in reference to?)

REALLY?!?! Yeah, whatever...


2. Dumbass kid brings gun to school

A light-hearted joke that asserts nothing but objective fact - again, REALLY?!?! Yeah, whatever...


3. Anyone buy tickets for the DCS raffle?

Thirdmanj is a member of both forums. And how exactly is a question pertaining to a mascot negative?


I didn't say it was always mentioned negatively every time it appears on DMCToday. I said it was mentioned negatively on the 3 occurrences it was mentioned within the 20 most recent threads of Open Discussion.

As I've shown above, that just isn't true either.

But hey, if you want to sow the seeds of division and discontent, go right ahead - just get the objective facts straight when attempting to do so.

[ccurzio]

Jesus, nobody other than you assholes gives a shit about this nonsense.

Pick a forum you like and go there. Don't go to the forum you don't like. This isn't complicated.

(Why the hell hasn't this thread been locked already?)

[Rad Dad]

Jesus, nobody other than you assholes gives a shit about this nonsense.

Pick a forum you like and go there. Don't go to the forum you don't like. This isn't complicated.

(Why the hell hasn't this thread been locked already?)

Amen!

[GS450-Junkie]

Jesus, nobody other than you assholes gives a shit about this nonsense.

Pick a forum you like and go there. Don't go to the forum you don't like. This isn't complicated.

(Why the hell hasn't this thread been locked already?)

Thank you! Spend some of that typing energy on your cars guys..... spring is near.