What have you done to your DeLorean today?

Hey guys-

So with inspiration from Patric C.'s car, 5625 finally received a much wanted face lift. I finally finished the stereo system!! :approve:

The components are as follows:

1. Front speakers - Polk Audio (DB351)
2. Rear speakers - infinity Reference (5032cf)
3. Planet Audio 5 channel amp (AC1800.5 Anarchy)
4. 8" DVC Pioneer sub woofer (TS-SW2002D2) in a Pioneer down firing sealed box
5. iPad mini w/ cellular for main head unit w/ (Mitsubishi heater vent relocation)
6. Sony MEX-N5000BT as hidden deck in cubby behind drivers seat (hands free calling)
7. Wifi back up camera
8. PAC IR-X Infrared Extender ( so I can use the Sony remote on the iPad)
9. New automatic antenna (Metra 44-PW22) wired to dummy switch in central console

I can't tell you how happy I am with how everything turned out. I even left room behind the passenger seat for the d%#! Flux capacitor that everyone keeps asking about. If you guys are interested in looking at the install process take a look at the album I created on my profile page.

Nicely done! Where did you source the iPad graphics?

How are you controlling the radio remotely? Via BT and the iPad?

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Nicely done! Where did you source the iPad graphics?

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Just random places from the Internet. I just searched for high resolution DMC logos and picked one I liked.

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How are you controlling the radio remotely? Via BT and the iPad?

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The iPad is conected to the deck via usb to lightning cable. However, I also installed a separate infrared extender. I mounted the receiving eye in the dash so that I could use the remote control while driving so I don't have to take my eyes off the road. The bluetooth comes into the picture with my iphone. I am able to connect my phone to the Sony deck and In-turn use an app on the iPad to achieve hands free calling.

It's really quite a trip to have Siri available while driving to load music, get directions, search the Internet, and make phone calls.

Played around with my idle a bit. My thermistor became unplugged sometime last year, so since then, I've had a jumper at the connector on the back of the ECU behind the driver's seat. I redid those connections again today, but I don't think it is the culprit for what I'm seeing lately.

After getting it wired up nice and connecting the battery again, it fired right up and idled very strong at 775. Then at what I would presume to be around this 4 minute mark where a different part of the idle system takes over, it starts struggling a bit. Like the idle would get weaker and weaker, down to about 500 something, and then go back up to 775 or so. Then repeat, not violently, but enough to make you think it could stall if you got unlucky that way when in traffic.

Remind me again what part of the idle system takes over once warm? Is this going to be related to the open loop/closed loop discussion and whether the oxygen sensor is being used or not? I don't claim to understand that part of the system very well as having never really needed to fiddle with it. Sticky idle speed motor might be another possibility? Any other ideas or places/components to check connections on?

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Played around with my idle a bit. My thermistor became unplugged sometime last year, so since then, I've had a jumper at the connector on the back of the ECU behind the driver's seat. I redid those connections again today, but I don't think it is the culprit for what I'm seeing lately.

After getting it wired up nice and connecting the battery again, it fired right up and idled very strong at 775. Then at what I would presume to be around this 4 minute mark where a different part of the idle system takes over, it starts struggling a bit. Like the idle would get weaker and weaker, down to about 500 something, and then go back up to 775 or so. Then repeat, not violently, but enough to make you think it could stall if you got unlucky that way when in traffic.

Remind me again what part of the idle system takes over once warm? Is this going to be related to the open loop/closed loop discussion and whether the oxygen sensor is being used or not? I don't claim to understand that part of the system very well as having never really needed to fiddle with it. Sticky idle speed motor might be another possibility? Any other ideas or places/components to check connections on?

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The lambda ECU starts controlling mixture after a few minuets of warmup. That is when the the O2 sensor starts putting an output voltage (it must be hot to work). If you have not replace the O2 sensor, that would be the first thing to do.

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It's really quite a trip to have Siri available while driving to load music, get directions, search the Internet, and make phone calls.

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I thought Siri only worked with wifi direct internet connectivity as opposed to cellular data.

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Originally Posted by Bitsyncmaster

The lambda ECU starts controlling mixture after a few minuets of warmup. That is when the the O2 sensor starts putting an output voltage (it must be hot to work). If you have not replace the O2 sensor, that would be the first thing to do.

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Thanks Dave. I looked back at my notes, and I had the oxygen sensor replaced in April 2010. I have not gone anywhere near 30,000 miles in that time, more like 8,000 miles maybe. I can inspect the wiring to it as that is easily accessible and very possible to be something I could have jostled the wrong way when fumbling around trying to get the cover/cap off the auto trans diagnostic plug. Or the connectors might just be a bit corroded like other areas.

If I were to get under there where it is threaded into the exhaust and extract it, is there going to be much for me to see on the inserted end to know if it is shot? Can I get one of these sensors locally (I assume they are a Bosch part)?

Jonathan, Have you checked your CO/Dwell?

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Jonathan, Have you checked your CO/Dwell?

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Hey Ron... I have not. Ever, actually. I hadn't ever really needed to since I got the car, but I'm thinking it might be time I finally figure it out. I've seen a number of threads and videos on the subject so I should be ok there. Just need to track down a meter to be able to read that sort of thing.

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Hey Ron... I have not. Ever, actually. I hadn't ever really needed to since I got the car, but I'm thinking it might be time I finally figure it out. I've seen a number of threads and videos on the subject so I should be ok there. Just need to track down a meter to be able to read that sort of thing.

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You would want to check the dwell before changing the O2 sensor. If something is wrong with the lambda system, it's best to fix it first so the new O2 sensor does not get dirty.

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You would want to check the dwell before changing the O2 sensor. If something is wrong with the lambda system, it's best to fix it first so the new O2 sensor does not get dirty.

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Will do, Dave. I'll track down a dwell meter and see what it says. I suspect this was checked in that first year I had the car (2007) when I had a mechanic doing most things for me. I didn't find any notes about it in any of the paperwork, so maybe not though. It seems like my fuel mileage got a bit worse this summer, but that's only a guess without a working speedo/odo. Last year (going to Dayton and back for example) it was in upwards of 27 MPG and now I think it is closer to 21 MPG.

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Will do, Dave. I'll track down a dwell meter and see what it says. I suspect this was checked in that first year I had the car (2007) when I had a mechanic doing most things for me. I didn't find any notes about it in any of the paperwork, so maybe not though. It seems like my fuel mileage got a bit worse this summer, but that's only a guess without a working speedo/odo. Last year (going to Dayton and back for example) it was in upwards of 27 MPG and now I think it is closer to 21 MPG.

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If your dwell is off the correct setting, that will affect MPG and mixture while your engine warms up. Is your adjustment plug cap already drilled out?

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Originally Posted by Bitsyncmaster

If your dwell is off the correct setting, that will affect MPG and mixture while your engine warms up. Is your adjustment plug cap already drilled out?

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Yes, the tamper proof cap has never been there as long as I've owned the car. I have the plug from DMCH with the little handle and hook coming off it to keep it sealed.

Pardon my ignorance, but where exactly is the other end of the oxygen sensor plugged in to?

I thought I knew, but apparently I don't. I had thought it was the one that becomes the blue wire going through the grommet in the firewall, just to the side and below the ballast resistor and which comes into the electrical area behind the driver's seat. It doesn't seem like that's the right one though as the connector isn't the same and the engine side of that one disappears into the centre of the engine (from what I can tell).

I can see my oxygen sensor from above looking down at the exhaust pipe, and the black wire coming off of it disappears into an opening in the frame just in front of the centre line of the left rear wheel, but then I can't see where it goes. I hadn't thought the oxygen sensor wire was very long (two feet?) so didn't think it could be going very far and yet I still can't find it. Does the car need to be up in the air to see or access the connector?

Yes it the O2 plugs into a connector near the drivers rear wheel. The other side of that connector is a blue (I think) wire that runs to the lambda ECU.

You could always reroute the oxygen sensor wire so that it still goes through the bulkhead to the lambda ECU, but has a connection that is easy to get at in the engine bay. Makes troubleshooting the lambda system much easier. No more scrabbling around underneath the car trying to find when the lambda sensor cable goes.

The NorCal DMC Club went on a drive around Lake Tahoe last weekend. Here is a short (3:20) video I made from the drive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS4L5iN-t5U

A little update:

- I finally found the O2 sensor connector. I confused myself not realizing the engine bay side connector I could see corresponded to the interior side hidden by carpet, and the interior side wire I could see WAS the opposite end of the O2 connector. I jacked the car up and double checked the connection actually by reaching over the top of the wheel while it was suspended. All good there.
- I ordered the Actron CP7605 dwell meter off Amazon and it'll be here next week.
- in the meantime, drove up to my hometown for their car show. Was glad it ended at 9 pm and not any later, like say 10:04 pm... considering where I parked that is. :)

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I installed new silverstar headlights and the new pump/sender combo unit.

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New:
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Car idling without any issues and only 2 gallons of gas in the tank. Never would have run properly this low on gas before:
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I installed new silverstar headlights and the new pump/sender combo unit.

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I gotta get me one of these.

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Originally Posted by MML

I gotta get me one of these.

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That is what I've been saying for years. What finally got me to pull the trigger was another round of stuttering and issues with my stock setup even after I had replaced the stock internals with OEM style replacements. When that happened, my wife didn't want to ride in the car again for a long while for fear of being stranded. I'm hopeful this is the permanent solution.

I put the combo unit in over 3 years ago, it has been awesome! I did put in the external check valve, never had an issue, but it can't hurt...

Craig

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I installed new silverstar headlights and the new pump/sender combo unit.

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Did you have to clean the tank? Wasn't it fun?

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I put the combo unit in over 3 years ago, it has been awesome! I did put in the external check valve, never had an issue, but it can't hurt...

Craig

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Now they ship the kits with the check valve pre-installed in the feed line. Given the history of the one built into the pump, it is mandatory.

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Did you have to clean the tank? Wasn't it fun?

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Yes, I gave the tank a cleaning. I did a full cleaning a few years back when I replaced all the internals the first time so this was more of a touch up. There was some rubber that deteriorated from the original boot, but not a lot. I still cleaned it out again with acetone, used the shop vac to pick up any small particulates, and did the white glove test to make sure I got it all. Not half as bad as when I did it a few years back. There was thick goo I had to scrape out back then.

My car is finally starting to look like a road-worthy car once again.
New calipers and pads all the way around put on last week. Bought 4 new tires this week... General Altimax RT43's (195-60R-14's) on the front, and Cooper Cobra Radial GT's (235-60R15's) on the rear. Had them all mounted black wall out.

Also new this week... my new DMC two-tone leather seat covers. They turned out amazing if I do say so myself.
http://i.imgur.com/jmsqJmE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JFLzxnb.jpg

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My car is finally starting to look like a road-worthy car once again.
New calipers and pads all the way around put on last week. Bought 4 new tires this week... General Altimax RT43's (195-60R-14's) on the front, and Cooper Cobra Radial GT's (235-60R15's) on the rear. Had them all mounted black wall out.

Also new this week... my new DMC two-tone leather seat covers. They turned out amazing if I do say so myself.
http://i.imgur.com/jmsqJmE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JFLzxnb.jpg

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Nice job.

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I installed new silverstar headlights and the new pump/sender combo unit.

New:
http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?at...id=35710&stc=1

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Very nice. I had one of these units already installed when I bought the car, so I didn't experience the old set up. However, I definitely recommend it based on my experience so far.

How do you like the silverstars? I bought them as well but haven't installed them yet.

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My car is finally starting to look like a road-worthy car once again.
New calipers and pads all the way around put on last week. Bought 4 new tires this week... General Altimax RT43's (195-60R-14's) on the front, and Cooper Cobra Radial GT's (235-60R15's) on the rear. Had them all mounted black wall out.

Also new this week... my new DMC two-tone leather seat covers. They turned out amazing if I do say so myself.

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Yes, they do look amazing! :thumbup2: I like the two tone version.

Powder coated my wheels
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Nice!

I bet you just can't wait to baptize them with the first coating of brake dust. 😜

drove it today, but more recently, replaced the alternator and swapped out all the fuses.
turns out the alternator i had on the car was a Paris Rhone unit (guessing 75A). replaced it with the Autozone cross ref '91 Saturn 96Amp unit and simply swapped pulleys. no issues to report. constant 13v+ at idle even with AC going at stop lights. I'm happy.

glad i swapped fuses. most had a good amount of oxidation on the contacts. #11 (30A) hadn't blown but was showing signs of failure with the plastic starting to bubble and even deform/melt (hopefully due to said oxidation on the fuse contacts). no damage to the fuse box itself to note.

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Not a thing. I ordered and was going to install a new alternator this weekend.
Based on original tracking info from DMCMW, I should have received my new alternator yesterday, (Friday), and I was expecting to install it this weekend.
UPS Updated the tracking info to a Monday delivery date. :question:
I live in central Alabama and for some reason, UPS decided to send it from Nashville to the coast of Alabama, and then send it back up north to me... :ehh:

George

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Very nice. I had one of these units already installed when I bought the car, so I didn't experience the old set up. However, I definitely recommend it based on my experience so far.

How do you like the silverstars? I bought them as well but haven't installed them yet.

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I haven't had it out at night yet with them, but daytime in the garage they look great. Much brighter than the standard sylvanias, and white light rather than yellow light which I prefer both from an aesthetics and visibility standpoint.

The good - #6679 was the star at a Back to the Future themed gala the other night. Result was spectacular per the photos below. :)

The bad - they did not disclose that, rather than being a static display, they would now have actors get in and out of the car throughout the night as part of their performance nor did security get on stage quick enough at end of evening so a few drunks got in. End result from this treatment was a seized door - was not fun climbing in through passenger side and spending god knows how many hours dismantling the door, getting it open, and getting it (mostly) working again... :(

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The good - #6679 was the star at a Back to the Future themed gala the other night. Result was spectacular per the photos below. :)

The bad - they did not disclose that, rather than being a static display, they would now have actors get in and out of the car throughout the night as part of their performance nor did security get on stage quick enough at end of evening so a few drunks got in. End result from this treatment was a seized door - was not fun climbing in through passenger side and spending god knows how many hours dismantling the door, getting it open, and getting it (mostly) working again... :(

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looks awesome! Sounds horrid... I would send them an invoice for damages done, that sucks.

installed DMCH's LED tail light boards/lights & included relay.
Installed SpecialT Auto's grounding kit.

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I routed the cables in such a way that they wouldn't sit below the transmission. In doing so, the way they went, i had to trim a few inches off the splash guard when reinstalling it to make room for the cables. A piece of silicone hose covers them where they lay against the coolant pipe (no pressure on the pipe, just touching it) to prevent rubbing/wear of the pipe or the wires.

now i have a spare set of pretty great condition DeLorean One incandescent tail light boards/bulbs (not that i plan to ever go back to them)
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Getting ready to install another fun addition. I won't frighten you with a picture of my dash modifications yet.

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After sitting in a box for 2 years, I finally installed Bitsyncmaster's LED dimmer module. Love it! Finally have the stock dimming functionality again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-dZQUWykvQ