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I don't understand the malice in this thread. It has been over 7 months since PJ Grady suggested they might make these plates and they aren't shipping yet. Bigmac wanted one now, so they machined one. It's a one-off and they're not selling them. Why get upset? Just because somebody else had the idea first?
Even if the plates were shipping right now, bigmac doesn't have to buy one. Would you get mad if instead of buying a plate, he made his own? Just seems so hostile in here.
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Originally Posted by
Mario
I don't understand the malice in this thread. It has been over 7 months since PJ Grady suggested they might make these plates and they aren't shipping yet. Bigmac wanted one now, so they machined one. It's a one-off and they're not selling them. Why get upset? Just because somebody else had the idea first?
Even if the plates were shipping right now, bigmac doesn't have to buy one. Would you get mad if instead of buying a plate, he made his own? Just seems so hostile in here.
There isn't any malice intended on my part. I just observed that he went through a lot of trouble with making an intricate stepped plate that I think was rather time consuming and unneeded. He made sure to point out he didn't like the switchplates he saw but claimed to have not seen mine so couldn't possibly have copied it. So I asked whose plate he had seen? My question was not answered and now you're stepping in to defend him when no defense is really needed. People can make anything they want even if it means borrowing from others ideas. I think Matt was a bit upset that he had to post it on this thread as it had been about Matt's and my switchplate and he diverted the attention to his own but it's a free country last time I checked. Please don't overreact to a simple question as to why he doesn't like the "other" switchplates as I don't mind constructive criticism.
Rob
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The question of what he finds wrong with it is fine. I'm more referring to stuff like this:

Originally Posted by
kajcienski
It kinda annoys me when someone spends so much time coming up with a new idea, develops it, and instead of contacting the first designer or helping to get it out, hijacks the thread with a copy.

Originally Posted by
PJ Grady Inc.
The switchplates are DONE except for final graining and the "Mattaligner" logos which you have demonstrated handily will be needed to differentiate my product from the inevitable copies and knockoffs.

Originally Posted by
PJ Grady Inc.
Thank you for being the first one to steal the concept

Originally Posted by
PJ Grady Inc.
The amount of time you spent making your "one off" would have been far more productive spent working on your car
It's just all so rudely-worded. Why not just ask what he disliked about the original version instead of passive-aggressively implying his plate is a knockoff and saying he stole it?

Originally Posted by
PJ Grady Inc.
There isn't any malice intended on my part.
With how you worded your previous replies, I seriously doubt that, to be honest.
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Originally Posted by
Mario
The question of what he finds wrong with it is fine. I'm more referring to stuff like this:
It's just all so rudely-worded. Why not just ask what he disliked about the original version instead of passive-aggressively implying his plate is a knockoff and saying he stole it?
With how you worded your previous replies, I seriously doubt that, to be honest.
Well frankly he did "borrow" the idea from us to be perfectly honest in the most PC terms I can say. What would you call it...sheer coincidence? I don't have to apologise for my wording any more than he would apologize for copying the idea. Like I said it's a free country and I'm over it but I don't have to be happy about it do I? I could poke holes in his contradictory statements too but I'm trying to move past it so why don't you do likewise. Have a nice day! Oh and I did ask nicely about what he disliked...twice and I got no reply.
Rob
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I don't see a problem that he liked the concepts so he made his own to his liking then decided to share it with everyone. No need for any negativity which as pointed out was clearly coming across. If someone has the means and know how to make their own solution by all means why not. I don't think a new thread really needs to be created since it was posted in general discussion, and a solution to the same problem. More power to anyone else following the thread that may make their own solution as well and wants to decide which they prefer.. On an orphaned car like ours coming up with our own solutions be it by something a vendor sells or on our own is kind of the name of the game.
That being said the thought crossed my mind to make some kind of solution to this problem that drove me nuts but I don't have the means or know how to do so. So i'm looking forward to anyone selling a solution as soon as possible. Thanks for all the time and development you put in Rob. Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
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Just to briefly explain why this pressed the wrong buttons... I just wouldn't go on someone's thread who I knew was working very hard on developing a new idea and say "I don't like what I see so here is a copy". There are a number of threads followed here where awesome members are working hard on projects and the posts are supportive or offer solutions for us as a collective community bring a project to light. The original post by BigMac had a very obvious undertone, and was not accurate as he claims he never saw Rob's design. It's just a plate... But I always respect people's ideas and try to help contribute, not say I don't like it and here is my 99% similar product, for sale or not. Why don't I go on some of the brilliant Dave threads and tell him I'm tired of waiting so I just copied it. Really? Would you do that? It just rubs me the wrong way. I have never once been negative on this forum, but IMO, personally, this lacked tact. I'm sure BigMac is a very enthusiastic owner and a nice guy, but why come on the thread and neg out?
Last edited by kajcienski; 08-27-2015 at 11:47 PM.
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"I don't see a problem that he liked the concepts so he made his own to his liking then decided to share it with everyone."
Well, he said he didn't like the design... Copied it, then back-peddled. Let's just move ahead. This is an awesome product whoever puts it out. We all suffer from funky switch alignment, and have a solution. No more funky switch issues - let's rally
Positive energy guys! Rob has done an incredible service to this product and countless others. Just doing our best. No harm no foul.
Last edited by kajcienski; 08-28-2015 at 12:06 AM.
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ANYWAY.........do we have a price in mind yet?
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Originally Posted by
GS450-Junkie
ANYWAY.........do we have a price in mind yet?
Yes they will be around $60-. My cost doubled with the welded on armrest plate, cushion, and extra time needed to buff out the weld and clamping marks from the production process. I have decided to offer it only with the armrest because without it the the tendency to accidentally hit the window switches would be aggravated by the extra thickness of the plate. I am hoping for a 100% satisfaction rate and eliminating the armrest while cheaper would lead to inevitable complaints with the design. The etching has also proved problematic as every step of what should be a simple process has been excrutiatingly slow. I am as frustrated as anyone with the delays especially since I'm sitting on 100 units that are paid for and 95% done. Just a little bit longer I hope. "Patience is a virtue" is what I'm learning firsthand!
Rob
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Originally Posted by
PJ Grady Inc.
Yes they will be around $60-. My cost doubled with the welded on armrest plate, cushion, and extra time needed to buff out the weld and clamping marks from the production process. I have decided to offer it only with the armrest because without it the the tendency to accidentally hit the window switches would be aggravated by the extra thickness of the plate. I am hoping for a 100% satisfaction rate and eliminating the armrest while cheaper would lead to inevitable complaints with the design. The etching has also proved problematic as every step of what should be a simple process has been excrutiatingly slow. I am as frustrated as anyone with the delays especially since I'm sitting on 100 units that are paid for and 95% done. Just a little bit longer I hope. "Patience is a virtue" is what I'm learning firsthand!
Rob
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