I am. One piece at a time. Door studs are next.Originally Posted by sean
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
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My VIN: 16510 and carbureted
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I am. One piece at a time. Door studs are next.
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K-Jet just yields miserably slow performance, among its myriad other limitations and drawbacks.
It is an altogether unfortunate fuel delivery system, only used by a small segment of the already small European car manufacturing industry. And even they only used it for slightly more than a decade. What a terrible prank to play on the auto buying public.
Every other car manufacturer in the world wisely kept K-Jet at arms length.
Wise DeLorean owners do the same.
If you want your DeLorean to perform like a 1970's Mustang, at least give it the benefit of Mustang fuel delivery and Mustang ignition. Otherwise, the only person you will ever beat is Granny in a motorized scooter (with a battery running low).
K-Jet -- what a joke.
Bill Robertson
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Location: DeLorean Cars, UK
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Good. I've told him many times that repeating an opinion doesn't make it fact.
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Oh dear. Didn't last long, did he?
Martin Gutkowski
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Very part time DeLoreaner...
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Since it operates above atmospheric pressure, K-Jet technically does not suck -- it blows.
Bill Robertson
#5939
Location: DeLorean Cars, UK
Posts: 593
Okay, could we knock this "Europe is an insignificantly small auto market" attitude of yours on the head once and for all? You're completely wrong, and I've only just spent the time to prove it.
A quick look at Wikipedia and guess what?
PSA made more cars in 2010 than Ford, Volkswagen made more cars than GM and Daimler AG made more cars than Chrysler. To these I could easily add BMW, Fiat, Renault, Porsche, Jaguar-LandRover and more. American makers trail a long way behind the Japanese and European makers for volume.
And yes, the US is the world's second largest consumer of automobiles for a single country. But Germany and Spain together account for more cars sold in 2010 than the US. Add to that France, The UK, Italy, Poland, Portugal, Ireland....... and all the rest, and I think you'll discover Europe to be the world's biggest car market.
Care to concede this point and quit making trolling remarks about European cars?
Martin Gutkowski
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Very part time DeLoreaner...
Posts: 1,068
European cars suck.
As I was working on these latest conversions this afternoon, I was reminded just how standardized they are (no small feat when you consider every single component, from the fuel pump carrier at one end to the air filter lid at the other, is made by hand). Whatever anyone wants to say about carbureting a DeLorean, no one can deny that the design has remained *EXTREMELY* consistent over the years:
Number 1 (Farrar 2008 ):
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Number 2 (John 2009):
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Number 3 (Del 2009)
Number 4 (Jeff 2009)
Number 5 (James 2009)
Number 6 (Bill 2010)
Number 7 (Bob 2010)
Number 8 (Steve 2010):
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Number 9 (Sam 2010):
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Number 10 (Garen 2010):
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Number 11 (Rick 2011)
Slowly but surely this subset of the community is building a standardized knowledge base that owners can draw from well into the future.
BTW: Anybody missing pics -- please send me one.
Bill Robertson
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Last edited by content22207; 09-04-2011 at 06:43 PM.
Location: Rochester, NY
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My VIN: 01049
Your face sucks.
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Remember the article I posted about the 81 Vanagon's K-jet 0-60 time of 20 plus seconds? That got deleted.
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To be brutally honest, it is probably North American emissions and fuel economy requirements that push K-Jet to its breaking point. Europeans seem to have much better success with it in high compression non-emissions applications.
North American K-Jet teeters on a knife edge of inoperablity. All it takes is one little variable to get out of whack, then the whole system falls down like a house of cards. That is why the General forum hosts a neverending supply of "my DeLorean won't start" threads, and why owners wonder why their DeLorean suddenly stopped running right when it was working perfectly fine yesterday.
These two posts in a current thread (http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?12...ll=1#post17975) bring up another weakness with K-Jet: injector variation. If all 6 injectors are not spraying equally (sometimes not even spraying at all), then there is absolutely no way your car will ever run right. Carburetion may not be perfect, but it does at least have only one centralized point of fuel delivery (two in the case of my fabricated manifolds, which isolate each venturi bore from the other).
Anyway, I have no desire to engage in yet another K-Jet vs carburetion pissing match. No one can deny that there is a small group of owners who, for whatever reason unique to each, do not want K-Jet. Protestations that "K-Jet can be made to work" and exhortations to "learn to live with it" ring hollow in their ears. They don't want K-Jet -- period. They want a traditional North American carburetor. No one is denying that many owners seem to at least come to peace with K-Jet, and some actually like it, but carb users are not those owners. They are themselves. For a variety of reasons they want a carburetor. Those are the people I work with.
Bill Robertson
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Last edited by content22207; 09-04-2011 at 08:11 PM.
Location: Fairhaven, MA
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My VIN: 3021
yeah mine!! lol
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