Ask David and Farrar: Technical Questions and Advice About Carbureting a DeLorean

[Delorean Industries]

Head over to the forum on www.renaultalpine.co.uk and seek out a member called Martin Faulks, he's a regular and definitely speaks your language and has a lot more experience with PRV tunign than the DeLorean crowd (me, I like forced induction and EFI).

I must admit to being surprised that despite having all that literature, you had to ask on the forum what the cylinder bore is... 91mm FYI.

I'm surprised with all of his questions that he needs to ask anyone anything DMC related. What he is asking isn't hard to figure out and he seems to be rather well educated.

[thirdmanj]

I'm surprised with all of his questions that he needs to ask anyone anything DMC related. What he is asking isn't hard to figure out and he seems to be rather well educated.

I think he's just being a douche. With comments like "I've forgotten more than you'll ever know.." blah blah, it's just super indicative of a prickish attitude. I'm sure he's very smart and educated in his field, but that's no reason to take a piss on a thread in a effort to make its senior members look like idiots. Farrar explained his position very well, but the guy was still being a tool. Theres a better way of making you technical knowledge available and known without, throwing it arround a thread like a flaming horse cock. A little diplomacy goes a long ways.

But it's no matter, if he continues in the manner he's demonstrated he'll be banned for sure.

[EarlHickey]

1) Hello, I'd like to know the intake port sizes, volume of port as well as the same dimensions on the stock CIS manifold runners would be nice too, and exhaust port sizes of the stock PRV. [none of the factory manuals give this info and I've found errors in all scaled line drawings. Easy to figure out if I had my manifolds off, sorry, I do not]



2)BTW... my factory manual seemingly fails to specify the connecting rod length. Scaling the line drawing seems to indicate nearly 2:1. Could I also get confirmation on the connecting rod length? Thanks for any help you can offer. [answered here Rod to Stroke ratio is a very long 2.004:1, thanks]

3)I noted that the Volvo pistons are shown with slight popups whereas the factory Delorean manual seems to illustrate dished pistons for it's 8.8:1 CR. If the Delorean uses dished pistons, do you know the volume of the dish? If it uses popups, do you know it's negative volume? [seems nobody here knows and I am pretty sure the piston is an asinine "reverse dish" with a negative deck height resulting in virtually no useful squish]

4)It would be interesting to know the primary and collector dimensions of the currently offered headers available. [I directly asked for available camshaft specs in another thread that is advertised with absolutely none offered, however, I must acknowledge a cam card for a header was freely offered. I initially only wanted basic dimensions, that shouldn't be a secret, right?]

5)Have you any thoughts on a smooth bore butter fly carb minimum diameter to make 180 horsepower, using IR and six throats?

6)Do you know if the stock runners will flow enough to make 180 horsepower? [directly answered in the affirmative here, thanks]

7)What size throttle butterflies does the stock DMC CIS have? [easy to figure out if one has another known throttle body near by, sorry, I do not and the manuals do not specify this. Look for yourself if you don't believe me]

Really guys..... I stated very early on that I have a factory manual and proved it by stating it provides no connecting rod blueprint dimensions so save the "cheaper than a haircut" childish jabs.

Don't sweat any of it and you are right, I am very well educated and not a lemming. I'll get answers to all my questions that matter to me.
My works have been featured in magazines all over the world and again, I'm here to help anyone just trying to get through this old life.

I only have one of these cars and I'm fine taking care of just it.

Keep your header and cam specs, I won't pull eye teeth to do good faith business with anyone as I know far too many kindred in the industry who have proven very happy to help me and I am quite capable myself, so suffering anything less than good faith and open disclosure at least of things I may buy seldom happens. I also do not buy things that I know won't serve my purpose or is far inferior to what I know I can make happen. That's a promise.

It's never ceased to amaze me how readily internet persons talk down to, punk out, or dismiss an unknown entity and are completely shocked when it doesn't work out well for them.

Nobody needs pix to answer the "easy to figure out" questions that I've asked, that anyone who knows about tuning would also need to know.

Now if you guys would like to start off on a better foot, I'm game.

Peace and if my approach isn't welcome among your community, I've been banned from better forums.

My apologies to Farrar for the disrespect and to all who were offended by it.

I would edit or delete the posts, but, I'll assume after a certain period of time has passed, the forum software denies that option.

[Delorean Industries]

1) Hello, I'd like to know the intake port sizes, volume of port as well as the same dimensions on the stock CIS manifold runners would be nice too, and exhaust port sizes of the stock PRV. [none of the factory manuals give this info and I've found errors in all scaled line drawings. Easy to figure out if I had my manifolds off, sorry, I do not]



2)BTW... my factory manual seemingly fails to specify the connecting rod length. Scaling the line drawing seems to indicate nearly 2:1. Could I also get confirmation on the connecting rod length? Thanks for any help you can offer. [answered here Rod to Stroke ratio is a very long 2.004:1, thanks]

3)I noted that the Volvo pistons are shown with slight popups whereas the factory Delorean manual seems to illustrate dished pistons for it's 8.8:1 CR. If the Delorean uses dished pistons, do you know the volume of the dish? If it uses popups, do you know it's negative volume? [seems nobody here knows and I am pretty sure the piston is an asinine "reverse dish" with a negative deck height resulting in virtually no useful squish]

4)It would be interesting to know the primary and collector dimensions of the currently offered headers available. [I directly asked for available camshaft specs in another thread that is advertised with absolutely none offered, however, I must acknowledge a cam card for a header was freely offered. I initially only wanted basic dimensions, that shouldn't be a secret, right?]

5)Have you any thoughts on a smooth bore butter fly carb minimum diameter to make 180 horsepower, using IR and six throats?

6)Do you know if the stock runners will flow enough to make 180 horsepower? [directly answered in the affirmative here, thanks]

7)What size throttle butterflies does the stock DMC CIS have? [easy to figure out if one has another known throttle body near by, sorry, I do not and the manuals do not specify this. Look for yourself if you don't believe me]

Really guys..... I stated very early on that I have a factory manual and proved it by stating it provides no connecting rod blueprint dimensions so save the "cheaper than a haircut" childish jabs.

Don't sweat any of it and you are right, I am very well educated and not a lemming. I'll get answers to all my questions that matter to me.
My works have been featured in magazines all over the world and again, I'm here to help anyone just trying to get through this old life.

I only have one of these cars and I'm fine taking care of just it.

Keep your header and cam specs, I won't pull eye teeth to do good faith business with anyone as I know far too many kindred in the industry who have proven very happy to help me and I am quite capable myself, so suffering anything less than good faith and open disclosure at least of things I may buy seldom happens. I also do not buy things that I know won't serve my purpose or is far inferior to what I know I can make happen. That's a promise.

It's never ceased to amaze me how readily internet persons talk down to, punk out, or dismiss an unknown entity and are completely shocked when it doesn't work out well for them.

Nobody needs pix to answer the "easy to figure out" questions that I've asked, that anyone who knows about tuning would also need to know.

Now if you guys would like to start off on a better foot, I'm game.

Peace and if my approach isn't welcome among your community, I've been banned from better forums.

My apologies to Farrar for the disrespect and to all who were offended by it.

I would edit or delete the posts, but, I'll assume after a certain period of time has passed, the forum software denies that option.

I was more then happy to supply you with any specs you wanted. Camshaft, exhaust any that we have on it etc. You never contacted us over it so I figured you didn't want to know.

[82DMC12]

Don't sweat any of it and you are right, I am very well educated and not a lemming. I'll get answers to all my questions that matter to me.
My works have been featured in magazines all over the world and again, I'm here to help anyone just trying to get through this old life.

I only have one of these cars and I'm fine taking care of just it.

Douchebaggery.

Nobody needs pix to answer the "easy to figure out" questions that I've asked, that anyone who knows about tuning would also need to know.

Actually we still need pics to answer your question about the intake manifold you have. You are right, most of these questions are easy to figure out - get your digital calipers and measure the thickness of a T/A shim. So far you haven't even proven you have a DeLorean and you just seem like a troll crapping all over this board. I could be wrong, but I'll believe it when I start seeing actual results, YOUR REAL NAME, and not a bunch of boasting.

Andy

[thirdmanj]

That was very big of you Earl. I'm sure your expertise and skill set will be much appreciated in the forum! Could you perhaps link up some of your work if it's online? I bet it would make for some very educational reading.

[EarlHickey]

That was very big of you Earl. I'm sure your expertise and skill set will be much appreciated in the forum! Could you perhaps link up some of your work if it's online? I bet it would make for some very educational reading.

Putting the big website back up has been considered as have both editorial and staff magazine positions.

I did all that stuff in the past and I'm not quite ready to relinquish the reclaimed quiet life just yet.


Josh, truly, no disrespect intended, publish your specs on your website.

Pictures, prices and specs sell good merchandise.



The other guy, I'll run right out and buy some shims even though my car's underside and chassis is with less than 5000 miles from full restoration.
My TAB bolts are new and do indeed appear to be inconel, bushings are also quite nice, thank you.
It matters not to me one bit if you doubt I have said car. It pays to be nice and again, communication and cooperation is the cornerstone of civilization.
Great things started happening among men when they first started openly and freely exchanged ideas, even if by scratching pictures on the cave walls.


If I've truly offended you, again, you have my apology. I mean no harm.

[stevedmc]

1) Hello, I'd like to know the intake port sizes, volume of port as well as the same dimensions on the stock CIS manifold runners would be nice too, and exhaust port sizes of the stock PRV. [none of the factory manuals give this info and I've found errors in all scaled line drawings. Easy to figure out if I had my manifolds off, sorry, I do not]



2)BTW... my factory manual seemingly fails to specify the connecting rod length. Scaling the line drawing seems to indicate nearly 2:1. Could I also get confirmation on the connecting rod length? Thanks for any help you can offer. [answered here Rod to Stroke ratio is a very long 2.004:1, thanks]

3)I noted that the Volvo pistons are shown with slight popups whereas the factory Delorean manual seems to illustrate dished pistons for it's 8.8:1 CR. If the Delorean uses dished pistons, do you know the volume of the dish? If it uses popups, do you know it's negative volume? [seems nobody here knows and I am pretty sure the piston is an asinine "reverse dish" with a negative deck height resulting in virtually no useful squish]

4)It would be interesting to know the primary and collector dimensions of the currently offered headers available. [I directly asked for available camshaft specs in another thread that is advertised with absolutely none offered, however, I must acknowledge a cam card for a header was freely offered. I initially only wanted basic dimensions, that shouldn't be a secret, right?]

5)Have you any thoughts on a smooth bore butter fly carb minimum diameter to make 180 horsepower, using IR and six throats?

6)Do you know if the stock runners will flow enough to make 180 horsepower? [directly answered in the affirmative here, thanks]

7)What size throttle butterflies does the stock DMC CIS have? [easy to figure out if one has another known throttle body near by, sorry, I do not and the manuals do not specify this. Look for yourself if you don't believe me]

Really guys..... I stated very early on that I have a factory manual and proved it by stating it provides no connecting rod blueprint dimensions so save the "cheaper than a haircut" childish jabs.

Don't sweat any of it and you are right, I am very well educated and not a lemming. I'll get answers to all my questions that matter to me.
My works have been featured in magazines all over the world and again, I'm here to help anyone just trying to get through this old life.

I only have one of these cars and I'm fine taking care of just it.

Keep your header and cam specs, I won't pull eye teeth to do good faith business with anyone as I know far too many kindred in the industry who have proven very happy to help me and I am quite capable myself, so suffering anything less than good faith and open disclosure at least of things I may buy seldom happens. I also do not buy things that I know won't serve my purpose or is far inferior to what I know I can make happen. That's a promise.

It's never ceased to amaze me how readily internet persons talk down to, punk out, or dismiss an unknown entity and are completely shocked when it doesn't work out well for them.

Nobody needs pix to answer the "easy to figure out" questions that I've asked, that anyone who knows about tuning would also need to know.

Now if you guys would like to start off on a better foot, I'm game.

Peace and if my approach isn't welcome among your community, I've been banned from better forums.

My apologies to Farrar for the disrespect and to all who were offended by it.

I would edit or delete the posts, but, I'll assume after a certain period of time has passed, the forum software denies that option.

I'm glad my name isn't on the title for this thread.

[dmc6960]

My TAB bolts are new and do indeed appear to be inconel, bushings are also quite nice, thank you.

Quizztime...

What "appears" to be inconel about your TABs?

[EarlHickey]

Quizztime...

What "appears" to be inconel about your TABs?

They have Toby bolt 12 point heads that are unlike ARP 12 point heads.